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Topic #3393970
dmb1 - Kay and James clear things up in HOH (really LONG) 0 Replies #3393970 8:31PM 18/07/2006
James goes into HOH bathroom

Kay: I thought i told him everything (meaning James)
Janie: You know why.. Danielle
Someone knocks. They check spy cam - its Marci.
Kay says nows not a good time and doesnt answer

James out of bathroom and wants to understand Kays logic for keeping Nak. Kay says because Nak will go after CT and Jase. James says why do we need her? Kay says b/c of numbers - in case we dont win HOH. James asks if Kay trusts Nak, he says yes. James asks if Diane trusts Diane he says yes but not as much. James says we made a deal, you made a deal with people who are not gonna keep a deal. Kay is frustrated. I know! Do you even know what the deal was b4 we have this convo.

Kay starts from beginning.... explains that after he decided to nominate Di and Nak. James stops him and argues about Kay telling him that he was planning on nominating Boogie and Nak.Kay said he was just throwing out options..

Kay and James argue about an alliance vs friendship. Sticking together vs not sticking together. James mad that Kay made deal with CT. Kay says we need to shape the house - its not you win HOH, we win HOH and take each other out. Kay: Whats ur strategy james? just go directly after people?
James is mad that Kay lied to him - said that he was gonna nominate CT but nominated Nak and Di. We are only gonna get 1 week of help from Nak until Boogie is gone then what. James said he doesnt have strategy. Still doesnt understand why keeping Nak whos a strong player.

Kay offended that James called him a liar. James said mr and mrs smith doesnt exist. Kay said it may have and now jase could be bailing

James is mad that Janie and Howie knew about nominations and deal with CT but he didnt. Kay said he told them to tell James. Kay said he staged a phony deal with CT - called them to HOH in front of everyone and told them to put up floaters and keep all four of them safe

James: Why are CT saying the deal was just to keep you (kay) safe? Kay yells: Because they're trying to cause dissention! James; dont yell at me.

Kay offers to call up Howie and Janie to settle everything. James says never mind. Its a wash. Now wants to understand why Kay wants to keep Nak.
James said if he gets HOH he's going after CT. Kay says fine. Then tries to explain the reason for not nominating CT. James says forget it but Kay really wants to explain CT reasoning to James. Kay says he wants to keep targets in the house. James said there are other targets, like Danielle etc. Kay says James is accusing him of sabotaging the team and lying. James says hes not saying that - he just wants to know why to keep Nak over Diane.

Doorbell - its howie

Kay says Diane is negative energy and has done nothing. James says neither has CG. Kay said he'd go after CG if he got hoh next week. Kay is trying to create animosity and confusion. James says it doesnt matter bc everyone especially CT is coming after s6. Kay says what happens if we get rid of them, after they're gone we'll come after us. James says they have different strategies.. reminds kay that he told janie that james said he needs to win hoh to pick nominees. Kay says diane should go b/c he can see diane siding w/ ct

doorbell - its janie

James says ok lets say nak stays and gets hoh and gets rid of ct. then what? (implying she'll go after s6) Kay says everyone else is scared of nak so keeping her will buy them time. Kay and james argue over who is public enemy #1. James says its CT. Kay says how / when? James said when they got paranoid. Kay said they got paranoid b/c of his nominations! His noms created dissention. He has made CT public enemy #1 and taken the spotlight off s6.

FLAMES....

James needs to understand why to keep nak against diane. James thinks Nak may get rid of Boogie then there will be good players left like Diane, Marci, Nak and Will will motivate strong floaters against s6. Kay says that will happen anyway. James said he would rather face Nak in hoh. Kay said it is not about who will win hoh - hoh comp is luck. its about what the hoh will do it. and kay doesnt know what diane would do with it. james wants to know why to eliminate diane a strong player. kay said bc ct is turning the house agaisnt them and nak will go after them. kay says the game changes all the time...

James; here's the other thing that pissed me off. janie told jase that she heard about mr and mrs smith from james, and not bc toni ferrari called him.
He feels like hes not getting full story from his alliance.

Kay explains that its bc janie and howie are in the hoh all the time. not b/c james is not part of alliance. kay explains that janie knew about noms but howie didnt know either bc he wasnt in the hoh that night either.
James says he doesnt want to give them info if the rest of s6 is gonna sell him out (re: janie telling ***** to jase). kay said have you talked about this with janie. james said no not yet. James says to kay put yourself in my situation. i'm not being told about nominations. i didnt know about deal or no deal w/ ct. now janie throwing me under bus (2nd time - apparently happened with ali too). it feels like hes getting f*cked again.
Kay says he's not getting f*cked. he apologizes for not telling james about noms before hand. kay didnt know that janie did that. kay says there was no deal! the reason he didnt mention the fake deal to the rest of s6 b/c he wanted whispers to be in the house but there was no deal. kay said he told janie not to say anything b/c he wanted it to come from ct.
james: what is the basis of the deal
kay: i said to ct i wont nominate you guys if you put up floaters. said he made it clear that it was keeping his team safe, not just him.
james says he told ct that s6 wasnt going after them and they cant have control in house b/c they cant win hoh
james says hes gonna talk to janelle about throwing him under the bus by telling jase that he heard about mr and mrs smith from james
james: i cant even think right now.
james wants to be in hoh when deal with nak is made. kay says ok i have no problem with that.
kay is concerned that james thinks there are hidden agenda. wants to clear things up that they all need each other and they are a team.
james and kay agree they;d rather argue things out every week as long as they communicate
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Topic #3393987
The_Jesus_Squad - james: what are you putting on your lips howie? 0 Replies #3393987 8:32PM 18/07/2006
howie: stuff to get rid of my cold sores.
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Topic #3394017
dmb1 - James promises that if there is further confusion he will go right to the person (kay or janie) - NT 0 Replies #3394017 8:35PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394020
SouthernBelladonna - Jase and Nak talk briefly. 1 Replies #3394020 8:36PM 18/07/2006
It was hard to hear...something about ho she'll go after if she stays... they have to go after ..... (missed it...hope someone else got it)

Now Jase is telling Boogie and Di that Nak WON'T go after the BB6. (ed. I guess he's not voting to keep her)

B/Di saying they need to work Marc and E for a vote.
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realitydoll - Re: Jase and Nak talk briefly. #3394130 8:42PM 18/07/2006
Nak told Jase that she is a smart girl. She will use the info sov 6 gives her and she is in a good position right now. Don't tell anyone. I've been trying to keep this low so it won't get out (to BB6).
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Topic #3394044
dmb1 - Kay explains strategy 1 Replies #3394044 8:37PM 18/07/2006
Trying to make CT get paranoid and piss everyone off
Trying to make others think Mr and Mrs Smith is real and turn them against Jase
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dmb1 - Kay: We need to keep people who are gonna play #3394127 8:42PM 18/07/2006
Nak will play the game and go after others
Diane will not
He says they cannot be the only people who are going after other people
Otherwise it will be just like last year (sov6 vs nerd herd). Each taking a turn going after the other side.
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Topic #3394093
pumpkin - James checking spy screen to see who is in the kitchen..a brief break from discusion NT 0 Replies #3394093 8:40PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394109
BBWannabe - Kay is pretty strong on his convictions... 0 Replies #3394109 8:41PM 18/07/2006
he's trying to cause as much disruption in the house to get the floaters to play, they'll make a hasty decision but will keep S6 safe because they (S6) has done them favors. He says that keeping Marcy and Erika safe right now is great, but when the disruption happens, they'll start freaking out.
Jase is paranoid, CT is very paranoid, and CT confronted Nak about not playing the game.
James said that he loves Marc and Danielle, but they're going to have to go.
Kay's trying to get EVERYONE to play the game so that the integrity of the S6 stays intact and that the attention starts coming off of S6.
(ed: It's starting to make some sense to me!)
Seems like James is starting to understand what's going on with Kay's reasoning.
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Topic #3394118
pumpkin - strong stratagy talk conitnues..talking about other players and there roles in the game.. NT 0 Replies #3394118 8:42PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394133
pumpkin - Kay.floaters always think emotionaly NT 0 Replies #3394133 8:43PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394148
pumpkin - now talking about floaters being scared..counting numbers of who will vote against them if they vote a certain way NT 0 Replies #3394148 8:43PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394155
dmb1 - Kay: Floaters play emotional games, not strategical (well maybe except Danielle) 0 Replies #3394155 8:44PM 18/07/2006
Floaters are scared. They dont want to be noticed. They vote with the house. And we have the numbers.

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Topic #3394164
pumpkin - Jase enters hoh room NT 0 Replies #3394164 8:44PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394167
memyselfandi - James doesn't feel like an equal member of the alliance and other strat (LONG) 0 Replies #3394167 8:44PM 18/07/2006
He and Kaysar are up in HOH talking. Howie is there too not saying much.

James complained about Janelle using his name when telling Jase and Boogie stuff about Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

He says he can't get any straight stories from members of "my alliance" (he used air quotes)

James wants to stop sharing information because everytime he does he gets thrown under the bus, and he's sharing information but he didn't know about nominations or that there was a real deal until after Howie and Janelle.

James: To me it seems like I'm getting f'd again. And I don't understand why we're getting rid of a weaker player rather than a stronger player.

James thinks he is now the first target of Boogie and Jase because of what Janelle's said.

The moment I feel like I'm f'd I'm out of here. He says Janelle has thrown him under the bus twice with information.

K: The reason I didn't mention the deal because I wanted it to come from their mouths to create dissension.

Kaysar just said the deal was to put up floaters when they get HOH. K embellished the deal to include a promise of keping his whole team safe and not just him (ed: when the deal offered no real protection for other S6 members)

James: I'm going to have a talk with Janelle.

He'll then decide whether to continue sharing info with her anymore.

Kaysar says he'll make a deal with Nakomis to keep S6 safe. James wants to be in the room so they can all hold her to it.

James says these arguments will continue. Kaysar says they still need each other.

James agrees and says at least there's communication this year when things like this comes up.

James, Kaysar, Howie discussing all Boogie and Will's lies preventing them from knowing who the real #1 S6 target is.

Kaysar says he's all for bringing Janelle in to clear things up so there's no rifts.

K: I don't want us to get split up.

J: No, this is strong. There aren't any rifts here.

James says there's no guarantee that any one of the four of us are here next week so they want to be able to hold people accountable who make deals with S6.

Kaysar says they need

K: I'm trying to milk my HOH as much as possible to make Chilltown look like fools as much as possible, to make Jase look like he's with them so Chilltown looks as strong as possible, to make Jase look shady with Mr. and Mrs. Smith

J: So you're into deception now this year too?

K says floaters are waiting for an epic battle to unfold between Sovs and Chilltown.

K: I swear to God they're already talking about Final 2

H: We're in week 2!

James: The reality is that unless one of the four of us gets HOH then two of us are going up.

James talks about going to Chilltown with a real deal to get rid of the floaters before the battle, the problem is they're not trustworthy.

K: Making a deal with Chilltown will not save our asses. It'll just make us look like fools.

J: We need to get rid of everybody.

K: Here's what I thought instead. Cause enough destruction in the house that will ruffle the feathers of the floaters.

James is shaking his head but Kaysar is explaining the best possible outcome. James says he always looks at the worst possible outcome.

J: OK I see Erika with the HOH key next week and it's like I love you guys but...

K is telling James his plan is to make sure the integrity

J: Two people couldn't make it to the end last year so four people...

K: I'm trying to build a cushion around us. That's what I've been trying to do this week.

J says the cushion is to get rid of the most manipulative people who could bring that uprising.

James says what if Marcellas gets it. Kaysar thinks they're good. James says well I think if Danielle gets it we're good. And Erika's the same way.

K: Floaters are always thinking emotionally. Marcellas. Erika. Maybe not Danielle...

James says they're only with S6 because that's where the power is.

K says floaters will have to make a decision soon.

James says if he got HOH he'd put up Erika as a pawn against Chicken George because she's the only one well-liked enough to get rid of him.

K: The floaters are so scared they'll count the numbers and vote the place the numbers are.

*Jase comes up to HOH*
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Topic #3394176
dmb1 - Jase comes into HOH, game talk stops. They change topic back to Mr and Mrs Smith - NT 0 Replies #3394176 8:45PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394182
pumpkin - now James talking about Mr and Mrs Smith to Jase..in hoh NT 0 Replies #3394182 8:45PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394194
The_Jesus_Squad - jase enters the hoh room 1 Replies #3394194 8:46PM 18/07/2006
ed note: shooobie dooopie

kaysar: we're pretty much talking about...

james: i don't think mr. and mr. smith exist sine you put up alison

jase: i'm in crossroads

(jase found out about mr. and mrs. smith from danielle)
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Anonymous - jase thinking of voting out di. NT #3394234 8:49PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394227
pumpkin - jase,kay,james and howie in hoh room..james and Jase talking voting and strategy NT 0 Replies #3394227 8:49PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394235
dmb1 - Jase can't decide who to vote out (to James, Kay & Howie in HOH) 1 Replies #3394235 8:49PM 18/07/2006
Before Dani told him about Mr and Mrs Smith, was voting out Nak b/c she's a stronger player. Now he feels he should vote out Diane, but he's not really with Diane so why vote her out.

James saying to vote out whoever he wants.

Jase says he's happy to either one go before him b/c they both came up with plan to evict him in Season 5.

(Jase sounds like he wants "permission" from s6 to vote out Nak and not have it hurt him...)

Kay is saying nothing.

Doorbell - Janie comes in HOH now then flames

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aloha1961 - jase is saying basically he wants nak out NT #3394250 8:50PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394240
pumpkin - NOw Jany in hoh room too..and flames NT 0 Replies #3394240 8:49PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394253
memyselfandi - Jase comes up to HOH and tells James/Howie/Kaysar he's at a crossroads 0 Replies #3394253 8:50PM 18/07/2006
Jase doesn't get how Alison would fit into Mr and Mrs Smith because that'd be Mr and Mrs AND MRS Smith.

Jase is up in HOH trying to do some sort of damage control with S6.

Jase said prior to people thinking he was in an alliance with Diane he was all for keeping Diane just because Nakomis is a better player.

Jase says he just personally feels they're both threats... Diane great at endurance.

James is telling Jase to vote on what's best from him. He hates that people are voting based on how other people are voting.

Jase says he's happy either way because those two were the ones who came up with the plan to send him home BB5

Jase: Am I personally happy to see any one of them go home? Absolutely because they didn't beat me again.

Jase: I really was thinking about having Diane stay until last night until I heard all this stuff that involved me. Nakomis is the one who came up with the six-finger plan and you followed suit in that whole deal (talking to James)

Janelle comes in

Jan: Calgon take me away...

*FLAMES*
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Topic #3394324
BBWannabe - Feeds came on and the first thing I heard was Diane saying, "Eww. I just sat in someone's wet spot!" NT 0 Replies #3394324 8:55PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394336
BBWannabe - jase said that he'd vote out Diane (to Kay, Howie, and James) NT 1 Replies #3394336 8:56PM 18/07/2006
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The_Jesus_Squad - he'd also would want to be against diane in the NOM chair because he knows he could beat her NT #3394361 8:58PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394344
The_Jesus_Squad - james is afraid of facing diane in a longevity comp NT 0 Replies #3394344 8:56PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394347
pumpkin - K, Jase and James all agree that Nak is smarter verses Diane good at competitions NT 0 Replies #3394347 8:57PM 18/07/2006
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Topic #3394369
memyselfandi - Kaysar to Jase: You know what I want but in the end it's your decision NT 0 Replies #3394369 8:58PM 18/07/2006
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