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Topic #2158217
rvwinkle - Gold Room update... surprise! they are still hashing the plan than didn't happen, K twirling hair, Jan eating, Howie consoling NT 0 Replies #2158217 8:23PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158230
rvwinkle - Kaysar ignores Howie and goes to Jen and asks for a meeting in the HOH room NT 0 Replies #2158230 8:24PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158256
abbybb - Kaysar trying to be diplomatic with Jen 0 Replies #2158256 8:27PM 12/08/2005
wants to know why Jen broke her word and his trust in her.

He is being very calm considering the angst he just showed in the GR
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Topic #2158260
rvwinkle - K to Jen - I said "are we clear? are we clear? are we clear?" J to K "Did you still trust me after saying that 50 times?" (Ha good one Jan) NT 0 Replies #2158260 8:27PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158277
abbybb - Kaysar said he feels that Jen is almost laughing at him 0 Replies #2158277 8:28PM 12/08/2005
for trusting her after he asked her if they were OK for 4 hours straight.

Jen said she's not laughing at him and will explain when he finishes what he has to say.
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Topic #2158282
bama_chevygal - Jen asks Kay: Did you really trust me after asking me 50 times? 0 Replies #2158282 8:28PM 12/08/2005
Kay said yes he did or he would never stepped down.
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Topic #2158290
abbybb - Jen's explaining her side.. 0 Replies #2158290 8:29PM 12/08/2005
and back pedaling horribly. Kaysar reminds her that she said she wanted to be strong for herself
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Topic #2158299
rvwinkle - Jen to Kaysar - You should have just been direct last night instead of saying "are we on the same page?" she took it a different way NT 0 Replies #2158299 8:30PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158304
abbybb - Jen is saying that she misunderstood Kay's wishes 0 Replies #2158304 8:31PM 12/08/2005
and that he should have just been straight up about what he wanted her to do..

(ed...God, she can't really think he'll buy that..)
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Topic #2158333
HollyMouse - CONFIRMED RACHEL AND JANNIE ON THE BLOCK NT 0 Replies #2158333 8:33PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158339
abbybb - Jen's saying she couldn't go with what Kaysar wanted 0 Replies #2158339 8:34PM 12/08/2005
because he wasn't there last week.

She saying that the pawn thing almost lost them Ivette last week.

Kaysar said that that makes more sense.
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Topic #2158369
abbybb - Jen's trash talking Rachel to Kay 0 Replies #2158369 8:36PM 12/08/2005
saying that she was trying to separate the friendship by suggesting that Jen and April were going vote out Ivette. In other words, Rachel was trying to bad talk them.
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Topic #2158373
rvwinkle - Jen tells Kaysar about not trusting Rachel & Jan (she trusts Kay but can't be sure he still has power in his group) last week they tried to vote 0 Replies #2158373 8:36PM 12/08/2005
off Ivette as the pawn, so she couldn't trust Rachel to not change her vote AGAIN and vote off a pawn (who if she had put up two from her group, would have been someone from her group i.e. Ivette)
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Topic #2158383
abbybb - Jen says she's still going to back door James NT 0 Replies #2158383 8:36PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158406
Caribou - Kaysar believes Jen. She's telling Kay that Rachel tried to set up her and April last week, implying to Maggie that if there are any votes for Ivette 0 Replies #2158406 8:38PM 12/08/2005
it's not from Rachel. Jen says Rachel/Janelle were gunning at her and April to vote against Ivette. Jen not telling Kaysar that it was her and April who concocted that plan and presented it to Howie, Rachel and janelle.

Jen also denying that Kaysar said that he would not nominate Maggie last night. Jen claims she misunderstood and that Maggie told her Kaysar never told her she was safe (Kay did tell Maggie she was safe last night during the comp).

Jen wavering on Janelle, not so mad at her, but definitely not happy with Rachel.
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Topic #2158428
Caribou - Jen told Kaysar she totally trusts him but not his group. She swears that Rach/Janie will deny that they wanted Ivette out and what they did. NT 0 Replies #2158428 8:39PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158511
Caribou - Kaysar asking Jen to review past week with him. She is explaining how Ivette volunteered to be nom'd. Then April and Ivette fighting all week. 0 Replies #2158511 8:44PM 12/08/2005
Ivette ran scared because her group seemed to scatter and avoid her, at least that's what Ivette felt. April and Jen went into HOH and Howie was "in our face" to get off Ivette. Jen claims they felt Howie planned all this and he really wanted to get one of them off. Jen says Rachel was a bitch the day of votes and she had to approach her. Jen relates her telling Rachel not to talk to people the way she spoke to April.

Jen still not owning up to the fact that she and April introduced the idea of evicting Ivette, still putting it off on Rachel/Howie.

Jen also claiming "confused thoughts" and that's why today's noms. She and Kaysar misunderstood each other she claims.

Kaysar - I definitely believe there were some mistakes by Howie.
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Topic #2158542
Caribou - Kaysar asks if Jen's intention is to evict Rachel or Janelle. She says no, it's to backdoor James. NT 0 Replies #2158542 8:46PM 12/08/2005
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Topic #2158581
Caribou - Kaysar telling Jen that his conditions have not been met. A and B not met. How can he trust that C will be met? Not to say she's untrustworthy but he 0 Replies #2158581 8:49PM 12/08/2005
feels he doesn't know what her intentions are. Jen doesn't answer to this but instead says she didn't have pre-nom meetings because her decision is going to be her decision. It's pointless for Kaysar to give her excuses (before noms).

They're laughing and talking nicely together it seems but definitely seems Kaysar is nervous about trusting her. Jen says she knows he can trust her but obviously nobody should trust anyone in this game.
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Topic #2158615
abbybb - Kay saying he hates this game 0 Replies #2158615 8:51PM 12/08/2005
and Jen said , "you shouldn't have let America like you so much and then you wouldn't be here"
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Topic #2158634
Caribou - Kasyar now explaining how it ended up with Eric being evicted instead of James. Also that he definitely was intending to get rid of James. He let go 0 Replies #2158634 8:53PM 12/08/2005
of button because he trusted her, that they were on same page. He walked away willingly and now he feels like he got nothing. He just sat there all night and asked you if we understand each other and she said yes. Jen says in her eyes she feels like he did get his way. The only thing she can't do is put up her own people. Kaysar says he's telling her what his perception was from the get go. He just wants to understand this, are they on the same page, still getting James out? Jen says "yep".

Kaysar - oh i guess that's it. I hate this game.
Jen - shouldn'ta let America like you so much, you wouldn't be here.
Kaysar - well i hope, i'm still unclear as to what happened last week but whatever happened, i hope we can come to terms about it and get past it.
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Topic #2158687
BillBishop - Kay to Jen in HOH: I'm back now, so hopefully we can get things in order. 0 Replies #2158687 8:56PM 12/08/2005
He tells her he would have done things differently last week. He understands her and Ape's position on maaaybe voting Ivette out last week. He understands they were just testing the waters and wouldn't really evict one of their own.
She tells him not to worry, she will use the veto.

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Topic #2158709
Caribou - Jen swears to God they didn't introduce idea of Ivette eviction on purpose because they're not malicious. But even if they DID, Howie et al ran with 0 Replies #2158709 8:57PM 12/08/2005
it and told the whole house me and April were voting to evict Ivette.

Jen - nothing against janelle, rachel and howie but with you gone they lost their leader and they got jumpy
Kaysar - they got a little frazzled but i'm back now so hopefully we can get back on track

Jen says maybe no POV comp. Kaysar says there will be one. Jen explaining their might not have been a winner last week but the comp didn't work out right. Maggie and janelle knew the game but they didn't play. Brings up Janelle getting drunk. Kaysar says if he'd been here he would have kept everyone on track. The second he's gone everything goes to hell but what can you do.

Kaysar - let's make sure he's gone. tomorrow we fight for veto.
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Topic #2158733
Caribou - Now Jen and Kay agree there will always be a POV comp but perhaps some comps might be set up so that someone might NOT win. 0 Replies #2158733 8:58PM 12/08/2005
Jen says don't worry, we're good. Jen says don't worry about who gets VETO. The plan is still to get James.

They leave HOH to go eat.
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Topic #2158760
soupmonster - Jen and Kaysar in HOH 0 Replies #2158760 8:59PM 12/08/2005
K: I guess that's it. I hate this game.
J: *laughs* Too bad America likes you so much. You wouldn't be here.
K: I hope whatever did happen, we can come to terms with it. Get past it. I mean, I don't know if there was anything else that was bothering you, but I'm starting to understand a little bit of what happened. I suspected based upon what they first told me.. "yeaa, we put Ivette up, James got off but it was our fault because of the veto or whatever.. and we put Ivette up:. I was like "okay", but the second they said "we thought we might try to get Ivette off", I was like "oh god, why?" There was a plan. I didn't say this to them, but I was like "oh, man, if anything, they're trying to see if you guys hold true to your word".
J: I swear to god we didn't do that on purpose. We're not malicious like that. Even if we did, we didn't even say anything about Ivette that night, but they ran with it, and that's what scared me.
K: At least Sarah's gone.
J: I think they just got scared, because Ivette's a strong, loud player in this game. It's understandable, but..
K: that's just giving into temptation. You gotta stick to the plan. You gotta think of the deals that you made.
J: No offense to Rachel and Howie, but thank god James was in that group.. I mean, when you left they lost their leader.
K: Let's hope for the best. Let me just say that. The point is now, what we've been saying the past couple of weeks.. get James and Sarah out.
J: There's no way it can't happen. On last week's PoV, there could have not been a winner. The only person who thought that way was Ivette, she was the only one who put all her balls in James's. I didn't watch season 5, though. Maggie and Janelle watched season five, if they had played, it would have been over. But Janelle got drunk and couldn't play because Rachel didn't trust her.
K: That's the thing, if I was here I would have made sure she didn't get drunk. I keep everyone on track, you know? The second that I'm gone, everything goes to hell. I'm lucky, I can't complain, but now it's damage control time. Make sure he's gone, unless nobody can win. Then we're *****.
J: I don't think so. It's a small chance. Don't even talk about that.
K: As long as somebody out of the six wins it. That's the point. We're more worried on our end because it's our asses.
J: I know you all are untrusting and think that if I get it or April you'll think that we won't use it.. but don't worry.

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